Even if it was true that the FDS was real and Jesus really chose them, the WTS is careful not to promise protection during the GT in print. Their representatives say it in talks but it isn't in writing. There is no promise of protection for individuals, ONLY for WT INC.
Mad Sweeney
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While You Were A JW Did You Feel Controlled?
by minimus inthe governing body constantly tries to impose its will on jehovah's witnesses.
they really don't want you to do anything but society approved things.
everything is "bad".. we can see this quite clearly at this point.
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Pimping the FDS
by Mad Sweeney inwe all know that the wts doesn't let a kool aid issue of the wt get printed without at least one reference to the fds and matthew 24:45-47 but i'd never seen it quantified so i decided to do a simple search of "matthew 24:45-47" on the cd rom.
here are some results from recent years and issues (issue - # of occurances):.
2009: 12/15-0, 11/15-4, 10/15-6, 9/15-4, 8/15-1, 7/15-3, 6/15-8, 5/15-7, 4/15-3, 3/15-3, 2/15-9, 1/15-3, for a total of 51 references in 12 issues.
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Mad Sweeney
We all know that the WTS doesn't let a Kool Aid issue of the WT get printed without at least one reference to the FDS and Matthew 24:45-47 but I'd never seen it quantified so I decided to do a simple search of "Matthew 24:45-47" on the CD ROM. Here are some results from recent years and issues (issue - # of occurances):
2009: 12/15-0, 11/15-4, 10/15-6, 9/15-4, 8/15-1, 7/15-3, 6/15-8, 5/15-7, 4/15-3, 3/15-3, 2/15-9, 1/15-3, for a total of 51 references in 12 issues. Only a few references to the scripture in the PR edition, in just a couple articles.
2008: 12/15-0, 11/15-1, 10/15-5, 9/15-1, 8/15-4, 7/15-0, 6/15-7, 5/15-3, 4/15-6, 3/15-3, 2/15-1, 1/15-9, for a total of 40 references in 12 issues. There are no references to these verses in the PR edition for the entire year.
2007 and earlier had Kool Aid articles and PR articles in the same magazine so I'll only list some annual totals without breaking them down. It is safe to assume that the vast majority of references are in Kool Aid articles and not PR articles.
2007: 39
2006: 42
2005: 31
2004: 43
2003: 40
2002: 48
2001: 50
2000: 44
Looking back over the decades, I realize just how blind I was. This control tactic has been used consistently throughout the entire time period the CD-ROM covers. All the way back to 1950. How I didn't see it until recently is a testament to the power and success of the WTS's mind control methods. God, I think I'm gonna puke.
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While You Were A JW Did You Feel Controlled?
by minimus inthe governing body constantly tries to impose its will on jehovah's witnesses.
they really don't want you to do anything but society approved things.
everything is "bad".. we can see this quite clearly at this point.
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Mad Sweeney
I think I probably felt it but didn't notice it. Thank God for education, though. When I learned what a "high control" religious group was in a sociology class, I got a tiny clue. It wasn't the first or last step to getting out (still looking forward to that final step) but it was an important one.
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Who is Going to Cedar Point Apostafest this Summer?
by jamiebowers ini am soooooooo excited!
this is only 100 miles from my house, and i'm going!
it will be historic!!!!!!!!!!!.
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Mad Sweeney
Is it ok to reserve seats for people who aren't riding with us in our own car?
And what if we get a hotel that isn't on the list? Are we screwed for all eternity?
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Mad Sweeney
Most elders I know can barely work an email program. I think an Internet message board would be way beyond most of them.
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Mill Hill Disfellowshippings
by BorgHater ina few months ago there was a thread about a couple of elders at the mill hill bethel being disfellowshipped because they disagreed with some wt doctrine (i can't recall exactly what it was) and that several other betheliteswere under 'investigation'.
i haven't heard anything since, does anyone know anything more about this?.
borghater xx.
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Mad Sweeney
Edington, 12/15/2008 might be one you're referring to in "Appreciate Jesus Unique Role in God's Purpose" pars. 11-14.
Also 1/15/08 "Counted Worthy to Receive a Kingdom" paragraph 11.
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not again! The end is comming!
by Married to the Mob inmil has been watching the news!
the uk goverment have raised the threat level of terrorist attack!
another sign that the end is comming soon!.
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Mad Sweeney
They've been pushing that theme for 150 years!
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Where is the WTS last reference to "United Nations?"
by Gayle incould you do a copy and paste of it?
is the wts talkinglately about the united nations much?.
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Mad Sweeney
It's referred to as the beast but only in the Kool Aid version. I doubt they'll say that in the Awake! or PR edition of the WT.
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on the fence
by In inboy i gotta say, i just can't make up my damned mind.
everytime i'm starting to feel better about the jw's, a brother or sister or the watchtower will say something just totally wacky.
did anyone get that bit in the watchtower last week about no questions allowed what so ever!!
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Mad Sweeney
You got it, yknot. 100% correct. It's a journey and an individual one at that. Too many of us have been told what to think and how to think for so long that at first it feels awkward and inappropriate to try to determine for ourselves what we believe and what to base our beliefs upon.
I'm currently not sure about the status of the Bible or the nature of God. I've worked out an understanding of God based on the Bible (which is different from the WT stance) but I'm not sure I believe in the Bible anymore, either.
I understand where dys and In are coming from. There is still the pull to stay in for those we love even though we're mentally out. But meetings are a torture.
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Wha was a Missionary, Bethelite or CO here?
by cyberjesus inwe have 3 missionaries for sure and lots of bethelites.
i was a permanent volunteer for a year in the branch in mexico.
oh and we have one gb member :-).
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Mad Sweeney
When there are fan pages all over the Internet for people who's only accomplishment is that they can sing or dance or in some other way attention-whore, I don't see giving some props to a guy who helps change people's lives for the better to be a problem.
Ray rocks. And so do all you other ex-dubs on here helping people.